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	<title>Comments on: US &#8211; Minnesota:  Fong Lee verdict sparks protest in front of the Hmong Professional Building in St. Paul</title>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<description>There are claims that the gun was planted or a &quot;throw-down&quot; gun, but these claims have no merit.

Many people try to point out the lack of fingerprints, blood, or other residue on the gun linking it to Fong, as if it were some kind of conspiracy.  But the people saying this aren&#039;t revealing anything except that they know nothing about forensics.  There is a simple explanation for all of this.  First, the fingerprints.  It is common knowledge in investigative fields that you can NOT lift latent prints from a heavily textured surface.  Guess what?  The grip of a gun is a HEAVLIY TEXTURED SURFACE, so it is perfectly reasonable that no prints were found.  It is simply not possible.  Also, the lack of blood can be explained simply by the fact that blood doesn&#039;t spurt everywhere immediately after someone is shot.  Unless a major artery is hit, there simply isn&#039;t going to be a lot of blood everywhere, except for where bullets entered and possibly exited the body.  People who work in investigations know this, whereas the conspiracy theoroists clearly do not.

Also, people like to point out that it is not clearly visible whether or not Fong had a gun in the surveillance video.  They say that since the officer&#039;s gun is visible, why isn&#039;t Fong&#039;s gun visible?  Once again, this is easily explainable.  Minneapolis Police carry large duty weapons, which are NOT meant to be concealed.  Fong&#039;s gun however, a SMALL .380 caliber pistol, is TINY in comparison and extremely easy to conceal.  It is perfectly reasonable that a large duty gun would be visible in a grainy surveillance video, but a small pistol designed for concealment would not.

Another issue people complain about is the number of shots used to take down Fong.  People who complain about this clearly have ZERO knowledge of handgun ballistic/effectiveness and the law regarding use of deadly force.  First, police officers and private citizens with carry permits are taught that if their life, or the life of another is threatened, to shoot and continue shooting at center mass until the threat is gone.  Even if the suspect has fallen the the ground but still has control of a weapon or is trying to reach a weapon, deadly force is still allowed under law, and rightfully so.  A suspect with a handgun, or even reaching for a handgun, is clearly a deadly threat.

Second, handguns are notoriously poor &quot;fight stoppers.&quot;  There are numerous records of suspects who have been shot MANY more times than Fong was, and lived to tell the tale.  You will also notice I said they are trained to shoot at CENTER MASS (the chest.)  Some people have said he should have tried shooting Fong in the leg, which is ridiculous Hollywood non-sense.  Shooting at a narrow target like a leg is incredibly difficult, even if the target is immobile and and at close range.  People who suggest that watch too many movies, and clearly have never shot a gun, especially under stressful conditions.

There is so much more I could add, but I think this is more than enough for now.  Until people understand what I have written here, they really aren&#039;t informed enough to participate in a debate like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are claims that the gun was planted or a &#8220;throw-down&#8221; gun, but these claims have no merit.</p>
<p>Many people try to point out the lack of fingerprints, blood, or other residue on the gun linking it to Fong, as if it were some kind of conspiracy.  But the people saying this aren&#8217;t revealing anything except that they know nothing about forensics.  There is a simple explanation for all of this.  First, the fingerprints.  It is common knowledge in investigative fields that you can NOT lift latent prints from a heavily textured surface.  Guess what?  The grip of a gun is a HEAVLIY TEXTURED SURFACE, so it is perfectly reasonable that no prints were found.  It is simply not possible.  Also, the lack of blood can be explained simply by the fact that blood doesn&#8217;t spurt everywhere immediately after someone is shot.  Unless a major artery is hit, there simply isn&#8217;t going to be a lot of blood everywhere, except for where bullets entered and possibly exited the body.  People who work in investigations know this, whereas the conspiracy theoroists clearly do not.</p>
<p>Also, people like to point out that it is not clearly visible whether or not Fong had a gun in the surveillance video.  They say that since the officer&#8217;s gun is visible, why isn&#8217;t Fong&#8217;s gun visible?  Once again, this is easily explainable.  Minneapolis Police carry large duty weapons, which are NOT meant to be concealed.  Fong&#8217;s gun however, a SMALL .380 caliber pistol, is TINY in comparison and extremely easy to conceal.  It is perfectly reasonable that a large duty gun would be visible in a grainy surveillance video, but a small pistol designed for concealment would not.</p>
<p>Another issue people complain about is the number of shots used to take down Fong.  People who complain about this clearly have ZERO knowledge of handgun ballistic/effectiveness and the law regarding use of deadly force.  First, police officers and private citizens with carry permits are taught that if their life, or the life of another is threatened, to shoot and continue shooting at center mass until the threat is gone.  Even if the suspect has fallen the the ground but still has control of a weapon or is trying to reach a weapon, deadly force is still allowed under law, and rightfully so.  A suspect with a handgun, or even reaching for a handgun, is clearly a deadly threat.</p>
<p>Second, handguns are notoriously poor &#8220;fight stoppers.&#8221;  There are numerous records of suspects who have been shot MANY more times than Fong was, and lived to tell the tale.  You will also notice I said they are trained to shoot at CENTER MASS (the chest.)  Some people have said he should have tried shooting Fong in the leg, which is ridiculous Hollywood non-sense.  Shooting at a narrow target like a leg is incredibly difficult, even if the target is immobile and and at close range.  People who suggest that watch too many movies, and clearly have never shot a gun, especially under stressful conditions.</p>
<p>There is so much more I could add, but I think this is more than enough for now.  Until people understand what I have written here, they really aren&#8217;t informed enough to participate in a debate like this.</p>
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